Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop
Transferred Face
2019
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop
12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop
No Sun on It
2019
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop
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Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop
I Don’t Know Where to Start
2019
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop
12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop
Pressing Need
2019
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Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Tunnel with Hand
2019
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Whirligig
2014
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop
Keep It Simple
2015
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Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Feed Me
2019
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop
Not My Favorite
2019
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Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Too Much
2019
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Nothing Really Changed
2019
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Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Browns and Greens and In-betweens
2019
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Too Much, with Oval
2019
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Looks Like Paint
2019
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Floating Duck
2019
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop
Confusing
2019
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Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
A Bit of a Trauma
2019
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Bubble Body
2019
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Clock Face
2019
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Empty Space
2019
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Waiting for the Bus
2019
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Wavering Lines Self-portrait
2017
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Words are Important
2016
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11x14 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Folding Head with Rider
2019
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition ofr 20
Cat and Woman
2018
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Doll Baby
2018
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Kind of Scary
2017
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Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Looking Back
2018
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Round World 2
2017
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in PHotoshop, limited edition of 20
He Man 8
2018
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
One Cat
2018
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Green Head
2018
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Befoe Looking Back
2018
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Doesn't Coalesce 5
2018
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Sofa Fun
2018
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Puncture Perfect
2017
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop
Double Duty
2017
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Where Is He?
2018
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Bands
2017
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Split Fig
2017
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20`
Fatty 5
2016
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop archival print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
On the Roof
2016
archival print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet archival print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Sharps
2016
Inkjet archival print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Corner Tree
2017
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Head 5
2016
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet archival print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Boding
2016
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet archival print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Self-portrait without Self 4
2016
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Monroe Place As If 2
2025
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet archival print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Sad Threads
2016
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14x11 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Stuffed Chair
2015
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
In Your Face
2015
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Paper Play
2015
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Right Before Your Eyes
2015
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet archival print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Hung
2015
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Finding My Way
2015
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
It's Complicated
2015
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Severed Connection 7
2013
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Head Tug
2015
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12x13 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Big Mouth
2014
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Elephant Girl
2016
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Babyland
2015
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Even Better
2015
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Car Amoke
2016
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print, limited edition of 25
Sloppy Joe
2013
Inkjet print, limited edition of 25
12x12 inches

Drawn in Photoshop
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 20
Flying Crazy
2016
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Puffy Sleeves
2015
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Monroe Place As If 3
2015
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop
Monroe Place As If 8
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Monroe Place As If 1
2015
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Monroe Place As If - Way Back When
2015
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Gum Girl
2015
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
11x14 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Pin the Tail
2013
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Running Out of Titles
2015
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Resized
2015
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Basic Shapes
2015
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Brown Spider
2015
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Projectile
2014
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Exciting Bed 8
2015
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Tilted Comforter
2015
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Bowler
2014
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Layers
2014
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Going on Below
2014
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14x14 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Twists
2014
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Caught
2014
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Few Moving Parts, with Strings
2014
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Illusion of Depth
2014
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Inadvertent Body
2017
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
14x11 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print and original photograph made in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Spike at the Party
2010
Inkjet print and original photograph made in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
11x14 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print and original photo made in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Pinx
2012
Inkjet print and original photo made in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Leggy
2014
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop with original photo, limited edition of 25
Moo
2010
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop with original photo, limited edition of 25
11x14 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop with original photo, limited edition of 25
Escalating Nipples
2011
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop with original photo, limited edition of 25
11x14 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop with original photograph, limited edition of 25
Blowsy
2011
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop with original photograph, limited edition of 25
12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Child's Self-portrait
2012
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Blocked
2014
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
16x16 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Buried in a House
2013
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Warp Chair
2014
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Live Wire
2013
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Boxing
2012
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Casket
2013
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Disappearing Act
2014
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
One at Each End
2013
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
For Eva
2012
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
11x14 inches

Included in this image are elements of my original photo, through Photoshop.
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Broken Shoe
2011
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
11x14 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Pink Interruption
2016
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Not Just a Head
2013
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12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Cube Man
2014
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Rough Ride
2011
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Reciprocal Action
2010
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
11x14 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Having It Both Ways
2013
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Triangles
2013
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
11x14 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Nosy
2013
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Witches
2013
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
11x14 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Color It In
2012
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Loose Thread
2013
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
11x14 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Pants Ladder
2011
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
11x14 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Developing Woeman
2010
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
11x14 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Bed with Visitor
2011
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Wanna House
2011
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Strange Garden
2011
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
12x12 inches
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Freshly Out
2012
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
12x12 inches

This print includes elements of my original photograph.
Carol Radsprecher Drawings in Photoshop Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
Corners
2011
Inkjet print drawn in Photoshop, limited edition of 25
11x14 inches
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